ricksiegel
Member   Posts: 59 Registered: 8/24/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/6/2005 at 03:48 PM |
In the last weeks Google has wiped out OnlineTV.com my domain. After being
on the Internet since 1996, longer than google, and heavily listed there to
zip is a mind boggling experieince I am going through right now.
The whole story is on my site CLICK
HERE in the "Google Wipes out OnlineTV" you can read there to save
space. We are not sure, but as the US trademark holder and owner since 1994
of the domain we are not amused.
Has anyone had similar experience? Can you help by reading this and
complaining to google? It has cost a lot of traffic.
Thanks,
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Rick Siegel
OnlineTV | MusicTV | TekTalk
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Duster
Junior Member  Posts: 32 Registered: 2/15/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/7/2005 at 05:21 PM |
Here's a thought. Instead of making ambiguous accusations "Google has wiped
out OnlineTV.com my domain" and more defined ones "I woke up today to find
some kind of strange retribution from Google" (retribution for what?) and
complaining about being dropped by their search engine, why not contact
them directly and find out what the reason is for your site being
dropped?
I'm sure not going to complain to Google on your behalf when you haven't
even made the effort to contact them to ascertain the reason why your site
was dropped. It could be nothing more than an error in occasionally
changing logarithms, especailly since you have a dynamically generated
site.
Do it calmly and with civility and don't whine about it. Present the same
facts you have told us only in a dignified manner.
[Edited on 8/10/2005 by Duster]
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Duster
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posted on 10/7/2005 at 05:35 PM |
Your problem may be one of your own creation. Case in point: when one goes
to onlinetv.com, one is redirected in several seconds to http://www.sedoparking.com/onlinetv.com/ where one sees
the message:
onlinetv.com
This domain may be for sale by its owner
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ricksiegel
Member Posts: 59 Registered: 8/24/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/8/2005 at 06:02 PM |
You make assumptions that are incorrect.
The main url has done that for years, all my sites do that. A search for
"onlinetv.com" should show that link and that it is for sale. Look at msn
as the article said and you will see how it was and that it worked quite
well. People find the main site with no problem from there. And it was the
same at google until a week ago (maybe a bit more now).
All sites are for sale. Show me a site, and I will show you one for sale. I
am sure this one is for sale at the right price. Nothing has changed on the
sites this year other than the addition of political stories in the last
weeks. The redirect has been there since 1999. The domain is, has and
always will be for sale. All of them are, buydomains.onlinetv.com is
another working site that is bumped from the urls just to sell them.
An "ambiguous accusations" ?? OnlineTV.com has been wiped off of google,
nothing ambiguous in my statement. Contacting them direct is impossible
other than a forum where I have been. I already tried everything before I
wrote about it. And it is almost the second week now before I approach
other site owners. I am even writing a paper letter to them. The article is
now published on 100's of blogs and sites and with a title like that will
garner the attention I want for the problem attendant.
I never asked in that article to complain for me, but complain that a
search for onlinetv.com gives nada. It is the only forms they offer. Do you
have some secret email or contact that no one else does? ____________________
Rick Siegel
OnlineTV |
href=http://www.musictv.com/>MusicTV |
href=http://www.tektalk.com>TekTalk
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ricksiegel
Member Posts: 59 Registered: 8/24/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/8/2005 at 06:17 PM |
Duster
I was a bit miffed at your message. Made me feel bad. I dont want to do the
same to you. I would never be here before I had made every effort myself
already. I did not go and write the article first and then go try and find
out why. I really did all I could before I went out asking aroudn.
You, are a bit like me before this happened. You think there is actually a
way to communicate wtih google. I would give money to know how to email
direct to them or get them to hear or answer or anything. Frustration is
the word now. Please trust this is not something I am doing for sport. I
feel bad enough to have to ask here if anyone had similar things happen. I
really could use that information or help. Other than that, there is
nothing to do but hope many people tell google in the form, that when they
search for onlinetv.com there is nothing. Remember OnlineTV has been on
their searches since their first day. We have been here since March 1996. ____________________
Rick Siegel
OnlineTV |
href=http://www.musictv.com/>MusicTV |
href=http://www.tektalk.com>TekTalk
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Duster
Junior Member Posts: 32 Registered: 2/15/2004 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/8/2005 at 09:14 PM |
quote:
You make assumptions that
are incorrect.
No I don't.
quote:
All sites are for sale.
Baloney. YOU have made a false
assumption.
quote:
Show me a site, and I will show you one for sale.
My main
site for one.
quote:
An "ambiguous accusations" ?? OnlineTV.com has been wiped off of google,
nothing ambiguous in my statement.
Yes there is, What you said was "Google has wiped out OnlineTV.com my
domain" which is not only ambiguous but misleading. Google did nothing to
your domain. An unambiguous statement would be "Google dropped my site from
their index".
quote:
Contacting them direct is
impossible other than a forum where I have been. I already tried everything
before I wrote about it.
It is neither impossible nor did
you try everything. In less than a minute I found their address and
telephone number by looking on their site. On the same page I found the
address and phone numbers of several sales offices and headquarters in
other countries. However, I imagine that only the U.S. headquarters will be
the one you'll need to contact. Here is the pertinent data:
Google Headquarters
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
phone: 650-253-0000
fax: 650-253-0001
Driving directions are available also.
There is also a big logistical problem with your request. If Google were as
impossible to contact as you claim, just where are people supposed to
complain to on your behalf?
quote:
Do you have some secret
email or contact that no one else does?
No secret, just
functional eyes and brain and knowing how to use them, particularly the
latter and perhaps a dash of imagination.
quote:
I would give money to
know how to email direct to them or get them to hear or answer or
anything.
How about just letting us know here what the
reason was for your site deletion from their index once you hear from them
(assuming they give you a definite reason)?
[Edited on 9/10/2005 by Duster]
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ricksiegel
Member Posts: 59 Registered: 8/24/2005 Status: Offline
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posted on 10/26/2005 at 06:45 PM |
That phone number will not get you to a search engine anybody. You can
write, you can wait. Of course, thanks for looking up the blatantly obvious
and posting such here with such flair, It was, of course, already known,
tried and proved useless, but your efforts are thanked anyway just for the
energy you expended. Perhaps if you called and actually got through to a
search engine person for a problem, that might show something.
You have a site you would not sell for any price and I have a third teat on
my back, and have never worked for money.
stop and focus:
The actual saga is being written up on the http://onlinetv.blogspot.com blog and is quite
interersting to see all the strange people and things that pop up while I
look for these reasons. There are other stories there, as this is not a big
thing for me, but it is there I think as second or third down now. IT will
get its own section because I think there are a lot of webstie owners who
would benefit from it when finished.
You would be better served readin the blog.
Even better, to go see the results as they were, and then do the searches
today. They have all changed and it is interesting to see how G**gle do a
dance to show you where your errors are. I was very lucky a college kid
took a look at my issues and resolved them all in less than an hour while
experts at all the sites listed pontificated and disagreed with each other
giving me different answers and plenty of flack, just like yours. Maybe you
have some new friends to make there?
In the meantime I found so many more things to do to get around g**gle, and
in the end I am better off and have solidified old relationships and made
new ones as well as learned a lot about SEO, SERPS and better html. So even
with wise guys trying it on, it is always worth the effort to persevere in
the forums. G**Gle has a lot of problems and this is only one off the tip
of th eiceberg. Do you actually work for them? It is like some personal
offence here.
Also, if you dont like my writing style stop reading.
____________________
Rick Siegel
OnlineTV |
href=http://www.musictv.com/>MusicTV |
href=http://www.tektalk.com>TekTalk
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