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  posted on 7/29/2004 at 02:09 PM
Hello,

I'm designer of phpBB styles and I don't remember giving you permission to convert my styles to your software. And I especially don't remember giving you permission to REMOVE MY COPYRIGHT and put your own copyright instead that links to this website. Right now I only see my style "Helius" converted to your software and you blatantly removed my copyright and replaced it with your own that leads users to believe that you designed it when you didn't design a shit.

I'm expecting explanation from owners of this website. Contact me ether here or on phpbb.com forum (username is CyberAlien) or send email to email address that is in my profile.

I didn't see any email to contact you, so i'm posting this in forum. And users should know too that you are bloody thiefs.

Sincerely,
Vjacheslav Trushkin aka CyberAlien.

 
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  posted on 7/29/2004 at 09:06 PM
#1 What the hell are you talking about??? Can you reference a theme or something? I don't use phpBB, I don't produce anything for phpBB and I don't have any theme called "helius" or derived from "helius". Is that a theme?

#2 What "styles" are you talking about? Styles in a stylesheet? A theme? What? What the hell is a "style"?

#3 My copyright only appears in my AutoTheme PHP code. Not in any theme, as I have admittedly only ever designed 3 themes and they don't have any copyrights.

I would love to help you and if I have done something wrong I will make it right. But you have provided NO facts and really NO information. Again, what the hell are you talking about???

Tone down the ranting and spell out what exactly is yours, what has my copyright, where it is and what it is called.

At this point, I'm totally clueless, except for the fact that you're pissed about something and that I'm "a bloody thief"! Good luck convincing anyone of that BTW.

Thanks!
-Shawn

[Edited on 7/30/2004 by Shawn]

 

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  posted on 7/29/2004 at 09:41 PM
And I'd point out that its hardly "stolen" if its given away free ....

That said, I may have it on my site as well at http://www.autothemes.com

If any of your themes are on my site and you object, please tell me which ones and I will remove them. I should note that I was careful to leave all original images and links, so if I have your themes I did not intentionally delete anything.

 

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  posted on 7/29/2004 at 09:45 PM
I have full confidence in jstuckemeyer, and if it is something of his, I know that he will make it right.

That being said, if it's not something of mine, then I would appreciate a full apology from the person that called me a "bloody thief".

Thanks!
-Shawn

[Edited on 7/30/2004 by Shawn]

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 01:33 PM
Theme i'm talking about is AT-Helius. It is based on phpBB style (or maybe its PHPNuke port) "Helius" that you can see here: http://helius.phpbbdemo.com

> And I'd point out that its hardly "stolen" if its given away free ....

If its free it doesn't mean you can take it and do whatever you want. And copyright for original style clearly states that you cannot remove my copyright without my permission and you cannot convert it without my permission. And removing copyright of original designer and putting your own instead IS stealing so whoever of you converted it IS a thief.

And in source code for AT-Helius I noticed there is GPL mentioned everywhere. Do not confuse free with GPL. My styles (and almost all other styles that were converted by you) are NOT GPL.

And I'm not only talking about my theme. Also I noticed that you have lots of other themes that are converted from phpnuke or phpbb and you blatantly removed copyright of original author of theme. I recommend you put copyrights back before other designers noticed it (and some of them are more sensitive about it that i am)

edit: and sorry about grammar errors. english is not my primary language.

[Edited on 30/7/2004 by CyberAlien]

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 02:25 PM
Great! So now we've identified what you're talking about. Unfortunately, it is not to be found on my site and never has been.

Why don't you give me the URL on my site where this theme "AT-Helius" is available for download or whatever you are refering to.

Ohh, and it would be helpfull if you would also point me to the file or files within any theme that contain my Copyright and any mention of GPL.

Thanks!
-Shawn

[Edited on 7/30/2004 by Shawn]

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 02:51 PM
Hiya pal.

Included in the PN_Helius theme is a file called README.txt of all things..

quote:
*************************************************************
** For Postnuke 723 and up **
*************************************************************
##INSTRUCTIONS##
Upload PN_Helius to your themes folder on your FTP.

*************************************************************
Postnuke theme by: Xtreme at http://www.6ig.com
*************************************************************

PHP-Nuke theme developed by: mikem at http://www.nukecops.com
phpbb2 style developed by: Cyberalien at http://www.trushkin.net

This package contains:
The Postnuke theme "PN_Helius".


Included a PSD/logo.psd to create your own logo.


*************************************************************


[LIABILITY]
NO WARRANTIES. THE PRODUCT IS PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANY UPDATES OR
SUPPORT, BUT WE MIGHT ANYWAY. ENTIRE LIABILITY AND YOUR EXCLUSIVE REMEDY SHALL NOT EXCEED THE PRICE PAID FOR THE
PRODUCT - THIS INCLUDES LEGAL FEES AND COURT COSTS. TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PROVIDED BY ALL APPLICABLE
LAWS, WE (AND OUR AGENTS, SUPPLIERS, FAMILY, AND PETS) ARE NOT TO BLAME IF THIS STUFF DOESN'T WORK, DOESN'T DO
WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO, OR CAUSES YOUR PC TO BLOW UP.






CyberAlien, your english was pretty good in that first post. For a second there I actually though you believed Shawn did something wrong.

IMHO, quite the contrary. He's taken a bunch of old themes and gave them life again when these other "touchy" designers you mention, seem to have left them go.
He should be thanked and not called names.

Now apologize and lets be friends.

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 02:56 PM
Thanks Infopro. But I still fail to see where any theme called AT-Helius or PN_Helius or any theme with "helius" in it's name is available on my site. Do you see it somewhere???

Thanks!
-Shawn

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 04:35 PM
Nope I dont see it. I do know its been converted though. Although the forums CSS is all thats changed for pnphpbb in the copy I have, and that's nowhere near as fancy as his link above http://helius.phpbbdemo.com is.

I think it's this part of the theme.php that he's speaking of, and lead him here.

quote:
<?php
// ----------------------------------------------------------------------
// Copyright (c) 2002-2003 Shawn McKenzie
// http://spidean.mckenzies.net
// ----------------------------------------------------------------------
// LICENSE
//
// This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
// modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL)
// as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
// of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
//
// This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
// but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
// MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
// GNU General Public License for more details.
//
// To read the license please visit http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
// ----------------------------------------------------------------------
< /blockquote>


Just a guess though.

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 04:37 PM
Had anyone done thier homework, we might have had an answer for this guy sooner.

http://themes.postnuke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name= News&file=article&sid=577

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 04:40 PM
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Hello,

I'm designer of phpBB styles and I don't remember giving you permission to convert my styles to your software. And I especially don't remember giving you permission to REMOVE MY COPYRIGHT and put your own copyright instead that links to this website. ....................................

..........................I didn't see any email to contact you, so i'm posting this in forum. And users should know too that you are bloody thiefs.

Sincerely,
Vjacheslav Trushkin aka CyberAlien.



Now please say you're sorry like yuh mean it Bub.

http://jensl.dk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&a mp;file=index&req=viewsdownload&sid=4

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 04:51 PM
Ahh, now it is starting to make sense. Someone converted a theme to AutoTheme and the standard AutoTheme theme.php has my copyright and site link.

FYI... That theme.php is for the AutoTheme HTML Theme System, is not specific to any theme and is copyright by me and is GPL.

Thanks!
-Shawn

 

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  posted on 7/30/2004 at 08:34 PM
LOL!
And now he has one of my themes on that site and he removed the copyright to that as well.

Ah well...

Maybe I will blame Shawn too.

 

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  posted on 8/4/2004 at 08:21 AM
In this discussion we have a classic example of why it is better to ask questions rather than making accusations. You don't look like a jackass when you ask questions. I'd say you don't have to apologize when asking questions, as opposed to making accusations and calling someone a thief, but so often the people who lack the intelligence to ask instead of accuse also lack the moral decency to apologize for their unfounded accusations.

Now CyberAlien has revealed himself to be an idiot and reprobate of dubious character whose judgment is completely unreliable and who practices character assasination.

"The degree of one's emotion varies inversely with one's knowledge of the facts -- the less you know the hotter you get."

"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
Both by Bertrand Russell

"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it."
Henry Ford

"'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
Abraham Lincoln


 

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  posted on 8/7/2004 at 05:32 PM
It would be nice if he'd come back and explain himself.

P.S. Shawn is to blame for everything

[Edited on 7/8/2004 by jstuckemeyer]

 

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  posted on 8/26/2004 at 11:28 PM
quote:
In this discussion we have a classic example of why it is better to ask questions rather than making accusations. You don't look like a jackass when you ask questions. I'd say you don't have to apologize when asking questions, as opposed to making accusations and calling someone a thief, but so often the people who lack the intelligence to ask instead of accuse also lack the moral decency to apologize for their unfounded accusations.

Now CyberAlien has revealed himself to be an idiot and reprobate of dubious character whose judgment is completely unreliable and who practices character assasination.

"The degree of one's emotion varies inversely with one's knowledge of the facts -- the less you know the hotter you get."

"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
Both by Bertrand Russell

"Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is probably the reason why so few engage in it."
Henry Ford

"'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
Abraham Lincoln








A man of very few choice words and Very good ones I might add. I thought that this one deserved a Re-Post...Great words there Duster....

Most of us are Lazy that is why we get Mad instead of asking questions !!

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 08:38 AM
Sorry, almost forgot about this thread.

I wasn't talking about that copyright in code, I was talking about copyright in footer.

Here is code in footer of theme.html from AT-Helius:
code:
<a href="http://spidean.mckenzies.net/"> <img src="<!-- [image-path] -->theme.gif" alt="Theme by AutoTheme" border="0"></a>
Where is link to trushkin.net? Why does it say "theme by AutoTheme" instead of "Theme by Vjacheslav Trushkin, converted by Morons Inc"?

So tell me why shouldn't I blame this website if footer clearly sais that local "designers" designed it?

Ether way: just remove my style from autothemes.com and don't even think of converting any of my styles again.

Bye.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 01:35 PM
#1 That's not a copyright, it's a powered by type button and link such as the ones at the bottom of this site.

#2 If you look in your browser address bar, this site is not autothemes.com and does not distribute your theme.

If you found something of yours somewhere and you take issue with it, then contact the owner of that site.

-Shawn

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 03:20 PM
Now I'm confused. Is one of his themes on my website? If so, then just say the word and I'll remove it. The only notice we added to any of our themes was a "Converted by AutoThemes.com" message.

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 03:27 PM
Dunno, I'm at a loss. He hasn't shown where he acquired this theme. It's built with AutoTheme and someone has put a link back to Spidean in the theme. But other than that he just mentioned autothemes.com in his post.

-Shawn

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 03:55 PM
OMG!!!!!
I just noticed that Shawn did this to every one of my themes too!!!

You better cough up some monopoly money to me mister or you are in big trouble!!!

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 06:40 PM
yes, i got it from autothemes.com because download links on other websites where i've seen it didn't work. jstuckemeyer, please remove it from your website. thanks.

and i recommend you change copyright to something clearer. like "poweed by autotheme" to avoid similar problems. "theme by autotheme" implies that you designed it, so that's incorrect way to put copyright.

[Edited on 27/8/2004 by CyberAlien]

 

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  posted on 8/27/2004 at 07:18 PM
It doesn't surprise me at all that you still have not apologized for calling them thieves "And users should know too that you are bloody thiefs."

You are aptly named, Alien. You are obviously from a place with no manners, morals, or decency.


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Bertand Russell

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You are obviously one of the latter. Don't let the door hit 'ya where the good Lord split 'ya.

 

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  posted on 8/28/2004 at 08:42 AM
CyberAlien,

So now we have it sorted out. You made a mistake.

Please refrain from using my forums as a place to resolve issues with other people and other sites. Please contact them directly using their forums or their contact information.

Thanks!
-Shawn

[Edited on 8/28/2004 by Shawn]

 
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